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Ars Amorata – Fundamentals
Overall rating
9.4
Effectiveness
10.0
Ease of Implementation
9.0
Innovativeness
9.0
Packaging/ Customer Service
8.0
Value for Money
10.0
Reviewed by Rick-a
December 24, 2010
I’ve been in self-development, psychology and growth for over a decade and read many, many books, seen many seminars, workshops (given some myself as well) and over 90% have been disappointing to me. They didn’t deliver enough.
I’ve ssen David Deangelo’s material, read the game by Strauss, all which felt really bad to me, because it was all about manipulation and a scarcity mindset. And worst of all, it subconsciously says to the guy (so called ‘PUA’) that his real self isn’t good enough. Why else do you have to play a role and act like Al Pacino?The Ars Amorata message is completely different and a very enlightened message. Be real, be honest, dial yourself up instead of down and CONNECT. I read about a complaint that it won’t get you laid. You haven’t got the message then… it’s NOT about getting laid. That’s the whole point. It’s about having a LIFE and truly CONNECTING with woman. I got laid like mad before the program, during and after. If your only goal is getting laid, fly to Amsterdam and fuck like crazy. Happy now?! These guys really don’t seem to get it… the size of your problem is the size of your life.This program has changed my outlook on life, woman and so much more. I love woman more then I have ever before and see their beauty, because I now look with different eyes. I have a sense of wonder over me and playfully and delightfully interact with woman, celebrating life, beauty and woman.This is the best program ever to me and would even pay $3000,- for it if I had the money ? Yes, to me it’s THAT good. No kidding. You will only get out what you put in, as with everything in life.
Hans is most active, but Zan is there once in a while. In the end, it’s somewhat been for the better. You start to answer the questions yourself and fill in the blanks yourself, which only makes it sink in that much more.
Yes, Zan could have been much more active, but then again.. you pay $100,- a month to get a 30-day top of the bill coaching? Not very realistic. For what you pay, you get 10x more and then some. For me, it’s been the best $300,- ever invested. Enough said! ?
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13 of 13 people found the following review helpful
“ARS AMORATA ONLINE REVIEWâ€
Overall rating
7.0
Effectiveness
7.0
Ease of Implementation
7.0
Innovativeness
9.0
Packaging/ Customer Service
6.0
Value for Money
6.0
Reviewed by Anonymous
August 10, 2010
The Good
You will interact with a ton of women! The learning progression is quite natural and easy to implement as long as you are disciplined to keep up with the assignments given (once a week) and are sincerely dedicated to the learning of the Ars Amorata phiolosophy. The videos and articles that are posted are very helpful in demonstrating certain aspects of the interaction, but they do dull out at the end a little. Most of the assignments are incredibly fun and you will definitely experience something in a way you haven’t before.
The Bad
There were no online seminars or discussions with Zan himself, and I’m sure the guy had a couple of free hours somewhere in those 90 days he could have spent with us. Not going to lie here, this fractured my respect for the guy. Hans did interact with the guys in the program, but his responses were quite short. Completely understandable though. The guy must be really busy because he is basically running the show here in Zan’s absence. Most of the teams that were assembled barely interacted within each other and so many of the guys went outside their teams for help. Fortunately, they were there for each other to help out.
A wonderful program. Truly different than anything offered from the seduction community and one of very few works worth paying for that I would suggest to someone.
I don’t know what the guy below is talking about. There was no mention of holding hands, paying for drinks/dinner or anything like that. I suspect this was his own doing of trying to impress the girl and win her affection. This program is quite different than that.
Whether or not you get laid during this program is up to you, really. There are no manipulation or trickery tactics being taught here. It’s the real deal. The guys who had trouble with the program (and/or dropped out) seemed to be struggling-to-recover PUA’s who couldn’t wrap their head around the Ars Amorata philosophy. Yes, I got laid, and lots of interesting stories I will remember for the rest of my life.
The program is about changing something fundamental inside of yourself more than anything else. It has both inner and outer ‘game’ componets to it (though the material is FAR from a game).
They are charging $300 for the full 3 months of the program right now, which is a really good deal…but my biggest complaint is that Zan Perrion himself was nowhere to be found, and there were no webinars as promised. Other than that, it was a pretty good time. Just show up, Zan. Your students want to feel like you really care about them.
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7 of 8 people found the following review helpful
“INNOVATIVE LEARNING EXPERIECEâ€
Overall rating
8.7
Effectiveness
9.0
Ease of Implementation
8.0
Innovativeness
10.0
Packaging/ Customer Service
7.0
Value for Money
9.0
Reviewed by Ankush Jain
December 24, 2010
I have recently finished the 90 day Ars Amoata online program by Zan Perrion and what can I say – Wow. I read the reviews below before joining the course and I thought it sounded like the course was more about being authentic, genuine and handling some of the deeper issues.
Now that I have cmpleted the course I feel this is the best course out there in my humble opinion especially at the moment with the reduced price. I received so much more value from this than I expected. This should be the standard that all other courses and programs should take as the benchmark. Normally courses like this overpromise and under deliver. As I didn’t have much information on th course beforehand I didn’t really know what to expect.
One thing I will say is that you will not be babysitted. You have to put as much into the course as the mentors and teachers but if you do, if you’re ready to really take hold of this part of your life, you are in for a treat. I think the guys who got the least from the program were the ones who put the least into it. Like anything worthwhile in life, you have to put some effort in yourself. Both Zan and Hans were active on the platform, although the majority of feedback is from Hans.
A word of caution though. If you are someone who likes to moan and whinge. If you are someone who wants a magic pill and hopes this will fix them without doing any work then this course is not for you. In fact no course will help you. I would advise putting aside 1/2 hour each day if you can as a guide to spend on this for 90 days. Some things will make more sense than others but trust in the process. It will so be worth it when you come to the end. Because you spend 90 days on this and it’s not something that you just read or watch over the space of a few days the learning really does sink in. This is about creating new habits and boy are they good habits.
Seriously, take the course. It’s a bargain. I dare you.
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7 of 12 people found the following review helpful
“HERE’S THE TRUTHâ€
Overall rating
6.3
Effectiveness
7.0
Ease of Implementation
6.0
Innovativeness
9.0
Packaging/ Customer Service
4.0
Value for Money
5.0
Reviewed by Chava
July 15, 2010
The Good
You will start taking action in your life. With women and in general. you will have plenty of new experiences with women from now on.
The Bad
You wont get laid. You will hold hands, make out, pay for drinks, pay for dinner. You MIGHT get a blowjob. But you wont get laid.
Basically expect to meet plenty of women on the daily. OMG will you meet so many new women. Dont expect to get laid with any of them though. Zan Perrion is 100% absent from the program. They only show videos and writing by him and of him. He will never speak to you. Hans will sometimes help you out. This does help you focus your mind and excel your life’s mission though. I will give Hans that. They do NOT teach you how to get a girl’s panties dripping though.
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6 of 6 people found the following review helpful
“GREAT INTENTIONS, BUT…..â€
Overall rating
7.1
Effectiveness
6.0
Ease of Implementation
7.0
Innovativeness
10.0
Packaging/ Customer Service
8.0
Value for Money
6.0
Reviewed by Elferwinner
September 10, 2010
The Good
The Ars Amorata philosophy is easily one of the more authentic in the seduction community. Innovative delivery
The Bad
For all the talk about becoming authentic, I don’t think the program is nearly deep enough. Zan’s philosophy is great, but to be honest I don’t find him to be that great a teacher. Moreover, he is mostly absent from the course (apart from appearing in video clips, some blogposts etc.). Apparantly you have to pay to stay an Amorati as a “symbolic gestureâ€. It kinda feels like an attempt to create a scalable web business.
I am really on the fence here. On one hand I like Zan and his philosophy. I really like the fact that his teachings are a move away from manipulation and game playing. And the Simversity platform is a great innovative way to deliver self-improvement material.
On the other hand, I found the course to be a little too superficial. Yes, it’s way deeper than most of what is out there in the seduction community (sadly, this doesn’t say too much). But I still felt it lacked depth, and that the sole reliance on blogposts and videoclips made the experience too sterile.
A more direct interaction with Zan would f.ex. have helped. It just seems a bit like Zan is trying to build a scalable web business without being too involved.
The program is not bad. It’s just not quite as much as you would hope for
